键盘侠|咋选？美网友热议：生涯挣1亿但无冠 VS 挣3千万拿2冠

2023.07.0518:20

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NBA休赛期交易、签约不断，有球员高薪签约弱旅，有球员底薪加盟强队成为争冠拼图。而在美国Reddit论坛，美网友针对近期的NBA签约和交易，提出了灵魂拷问：

如果你是NBA球员，职业生涯结束时，你希望自己生涯总薪资1亿美金但没有冠军戒指，还是生涯总薪资只有3000万美金但有2枚冠军戒指？

如下是部分美网友的评论，看完美网友的评论后，欢迎吧友们在评论区发表自己的看法。

[–]Passerbycasual 2484 points 14 hours ago

If your career earnings are 100m these days, you probably aren’t a number 1 option or HOF bound player. In that case, the legacy impact of winning a ring matters a lot less imo. 100m is more than 3x the money, sign me up.

球迷：在当今联盟，如果职业生涯“只”挣1亿美金，你八成都不是球队的头牌或者名人堂级别的球员。那么在这种背景下，对于生涯薪资3000万级别的球员来说，以他们的角色拿到总冠军，给他们的生涯成就加成也不会特别大。所以，我选择无冠挣1亿，多拿超过3倍的钱呢！同意的顶我上去！

[–]Maverickscautious-opulence 969 points 11 hours ago

And if they are 30m in earnings, no one will even remember they won 2 rings

独行侠球迷：而且对于生涯薪资3000万级别的球员来说，哪怕他们拿了2个冠军，也不会有人记得他们的…

（吧友们：猜猜他是谁，他在哪一年跟随哪支球队夺得总冠军）

[–]Necessary_Bass_7127 71 points 11 hours ago

This right here. Rings only matter if you have the potential to go down as an all time great. As a role player, winning rings comes down to how good your best players are.

A more accurate scenario would be….500m lifetime earnings with 0 rings or 400m lifetime earning with 2 rings. Think of the pay cut bron took to join the heat.

球迷：说得没错！只有当你有潜力进入史上最佳范畴的时候，总冠军才会成为重要的成就加成。而如果你只是一名角色球员，总冠军只是彰显你们球队老大有多厉害而已，压根没你什么事儿。所以我觉得选项应该调整为这样会更好一点：生涯薪资5亿但是无冠 VS 生涯薪资4亿拿2冠。可以参考詹姆斯当年降薪加盟热火。

注：2010年，詹姆斯以6年1.1亿美元的非顶薪合同，加盟热火。

[–]HikmetLeGuin 50 points 8 hours ago

I'm pretty sure most players dream of winning a championship their whole lives and are highly competitive people who are driven to win because it matters deeply to themselves and their teammates, not just because of their legacy with the fans and media.

球迷：我很肯定，大部分球员都梦想成为总冠军！他们都是极具竞争性的人，好胜心极强！赢球、夺冠对他们个人以及队友来说，是刻进骨子里的信念，不是简单地为了自己在球迷和媒体那边的声名地位而已！

[–]thcsquad 9 points 6 hours ago

I was thinking this. These players are in the NBA because they are competitive as hell. Then again, if we are quizzing reddit poasters instead of actual NBA players it makes sense for them to beeline right for the money.

球迷：我也是这么想的！这些球员之所以能闯进NBA，就是因为他们那超凡的好胜心和竞争欲！而我们再来看看，现在这个问题问的都是谁？问的不是NBA球员，而是咱们贴吧的吧友，对吧？作为普通人，吧友们会直截了当地选择无冠挣1亿，这是完全可以理解的！

[–]PistonsMintyFreshBreathYo 8 points 6 hours ago

I’d argue most NBA players are in the NBA because they learned at an early age being tall, and athletic can lead them to millions of dollars if they work at it. It’s like any other job

活塞球迷：我表示质疑！很多NBA球员在很小的时候就鹤立鸡群，并且早就明白一个道理：只要他们勤加练习，超凡的运动能力能让他们在未来挣上千百万的美金！所以，NBA球员打球，和其他任何一份普通工作一样，就是挣钱~

[–]KnicksObiOneKenobae 10.0k points 15 hours ago

For an extra 70M I would windmill dunk on our own basket to lose the finals.

尼克斯球迷：不是我吹！如果不拿冠军能让我多挣7000万美金？卧底总决赛算什么，老子直接在总决赛上朝自家篮筐玩大风车灌篮！！

[–]SteveGoldenG 1673 points 14 hours ago

You are absolutely a legend bro

球迷：大哥你可真是个奇人易逝啊！！！

[–]ProfessorPetrus 3 points 9 hours ago

Y'all going to spend it all on security after windmill dunking on your own team in the finals lol.

球迷：可不逝嘛！敢在总决赛上往自家篮筐玩大风车扣篮，这大哥挣的钱得全用来雇保镖保命才行了！！哈哈哈！！

[–]Suns_the_chosen_juan_ 84 points 11 hours ago

Lol seriously is this even a question? Gimme that MF money

太阳球迷：哈哈哈！！搞毛呢，这也算是个问题吗？他妈的给我钞票啊！！

[–]Grizzliesdrokihazan 34 points 10 hours ago

Anyone who chooses 30M and 2 rings is straight up braindamaged.

It's not even remotely a contest.

灰熊球迷：那些选3000万+2冠的人，都是纯纯的脑残！这两个选项压根就没有可比性！！

[–]Trail BlazersDauntless_Idiot 7 points 6 hours ago

$30M is more money than most people can possible ever need in their lifetime unless they make some extremely poor decisions or some extremely bad luck/health outcomes.

I don't think an extra $70m adds that much value, but since I don't care that much about rings it actually does add more value for myself than two rings.

开拓者球迷：除非你胡搞乱搞或者倒大霉、生大病，不然光是3000万美金大部分人就已经一辈子都花不完了！！所以再多给你7000万美金，其实对实际的生活也不会增加太多额外的价值…不过我对总冠军没有太多的执念，所以对我来说，多个7000万美金，比2个冠军更有价值一点。

[–]Bucksquedfoot 49 points 9 hours ago

If I'm 19 and ambitious, I'm taking the 30 mil and 2 rings. Now that I'm 29 and have gone through some serious problems, I'm only looking out for myself and family, I'm taking 100 mil no doubt.

雄鹿球迷：如果我还是19岁，雄心壮志满身鸡汤，那我会选择3000万美金+2冠。但是现在我29岁，早已遭遇过一些惨痛的经历，如今做什么事都只为自己和家人着想了，所以我会选择1亿美金+0冠，想都不想一下~~

[–]NuggetsAny_Adhesiveness_898 3 points 3 hours ago

You and your family wouldn't be set on $30M?

掘金球迷：楼上的，3000万美金还不够你一家子衣食无忧的啊？

[–]jtruth9 66 points 13 hours ago

So Dillon Brooks or Kevon Looney?

球迷：简单来讲就是，你选择成为狄龙-布鲁克斯，还是凯文-卢尼，对吧？

[–]Trail Blazerslikpoper 84 points 14 hours ago

100 mln of course.. rings are useless unless you are one of the main guys. Like who the fuck gives a shit about Adam Morrison having a ring

开拓者球迷：当然是选择1亿美金啦~~除非你是夺冠队伍的关键人物，不然戒指对你来说压根没啥大用~~就好像…谁TM在乎亚当-莫里森有冠军戒指啊~~~

（亚当-莫里森，2009年和2010年随湖人队两夺总冠军）

[–]Heatvincemeister55 11 points 13 hours ago

30M but it depends if whether Im a rotational piece ala Shane Battier and not a bench bum like Quinn Cook.

热火球迷：我可以选3000万美金，但是也取决于我是夺冠队伍里面的轮换球员比如肖恩-巴蒂尔，而不是想奎恩-库克这样的饮水机管理员…

（2012年热火冠军先发阵容）

[–]MundaneTonight437 67 points 11 hours ago

30M is so much money of you can't live off that happily you need to check yourself. I'd take 30 and two rings. Imagine the fucking memories. Crazy thing about NBA is you had to win your conference with a best of 7, then win the whole thing with a best of 7. It's an insane run that must have so much joy involved. Going to battle with your boys not once, but twice to claim the ultimate crown. 2 rings and 30M for me please...

球迷：拥有3000万美金这么大一笔钱，如果你还是活得不开心，那你得好好检查检查自己是不是哪根筋搭错了！我是会选择拿3000万美金+2冠的！想想看，拥有那些牛逼的夺冠回忆是什么感觉吧！在NBA夺冠的牛逼之处在于，你得通过一个7场4胜的系列赛，先成为分区冠军；最后还要在一个7场4胜系列赛中胜出才成为总冠军！这样的征程太牛了，肯定非常有意思！！而且你会和自己的战友走不止一次夺冠征程，是两次啊！给我两个冠军和3000万美金吧，拜托~~~~

[–][TOR] Jamario MoonOG12 13 points 8 hours ago

I’m almost 40 years old. And at this stage of my life I think I’d take the experience and memories over the additional $70m.

In my early 30s, I got a huge break in my career, and my earnings put me into a very comfortable and borderline luxurious lifestyle.

The increase in earnings is at most a temporary level of happiness and absolutely does not do anything for sustained happiness.

Depression still exists, anxiety still exists. And the emotion of happiness is the same feeling as when I was less well off. When Elon Musk or Bill Gates feel happiness, it isn’t any different than myself in any way. It’s the same hit of dopamine.

I think winning two rings will deliver something money can’t which is the fulfillment of accomplishing a life long dream.

猛龙球迷：我快40岁了，到了我这个岁数，相比于多拿7000万美金，我更在意那些难得的人生经历和回忆~~

记得30岁刚出头的时候，我在工作上一跃冲天，当时挣的钱让我过上了非常舒适、甚至近乎奢华的生活。但是收入的增加所带来的幸福感只是暂时的，根本没办法持续，抑郁、焦虑的情绪依然存在。而当时能感受到的快乐，其实在我没钱的时候一样也能感受到~~就像马斯克和比尔盖茨这种富豪能得到的快乐，我一样也能得到，都是多巴胺的产物罢了。

而拿到两个冠军所能带来的东西，那种达成一生夙愿的满足感，是钱万万办不到的~~

[–]AdhesivenessLucky896 36 points 11 hours ago

Exactly. I don't know what other people live for. It's so weird. With the 30 mil, your next couple generations should be solid too with average market investments. You did your job. You can live in a pretty nice place and vacation whenever you wanted. The memories from 2 rings are priceless. That stays with people for a lifetime and the fans will remember too every time they see you. Ask Kenny Smith about his two rings with Rockets. People here are just whores.

球迷：说得太对了！我不明白其他人（选择1亿美金的人）活着是为了什么，太奇怪了！如果你有3000万美金，按照市场平均的投资回报率，你一家子未来几代子孙的日子也都不用愁了啊！只要好好管理这笔钱，你完全可以身住豪宅，去任何想去的地方度假！而2个冠军征程的回忆是无价至宝，这些美好回忆会跟着你一辈子的，而且球迷每次见到你也会立马回忆起那段岁月！去问问肯尼-史密斯和他在火箭的两次冠军经历吧！这个帖子里面的人一个个都是见钱眼开的骚货！

[–]BucksBot_Name1 4 points 8 hours ago

It’s not about it being a status thing. It would mean that I can take care of my family no problem for generations.

雄鹿球迷：大家会选择1亿美金并不是说这是个爱钱的社会~~而是说我可以更好地照顾家人，让儿孙后代衣食无忧~

[–]MundaneTonight437 9 points 7 hours ago

I hear you....but you can with 30M as well lol....its so much money. PLus with 2 rings you can make mroe money after through endorsments you wont get without the rings.

球迷：我明白你的意思…但是3000万美金一样可以让你几辈子衣食无忧啊哈哈哈…再说了，拿到2个总冠军之后，你可以通过一些广告代言挣更多的钱，如果没有冠军，你很可能挣不到这些钱~

[–]Spursyungsantaclaus 24 points 14 hours ago

Were you a superstar and the clear best player on the two rings? Were they Dirk 2011, Hakeem 1994-1995, Duncan 2003 rings? Or were they Pippen rings? Were they role player rings?

马刺球迷：请问这里提到的两个冠军，我们是冠军征程中最关键的球员吗？是2011年的诺维斯基吗？是1994-1995的奥拉朱旺吗？是2003年的邓肯吗？或者哪怕是皮蓬吗？还是说，我们只是以角色球员身份拿到的冠军？

[–]thommonator 21 points 12 hours ago

This is a key question. Some rings are worth a lot more than others - would I give up half of my career earnings to be THE guy for a Knicks or 76ers and carry them to a title? Probably, money can’t buy that legendary status and you’ll be financially secure off the back of the rings anyway. But to sit on a bench playing a peripheral role, meh - get that bag. So I might do it to be Nowitzki, but not to be Juan Toscano Anderson.

球迷：对，这是个很关键的问题！有些冠军确实更弥足珍贵，你问我是否愿意放弃自己职业生涯一半的收入，去成为带领尼克斯或者76人夺冠的领军人物？我很可能是愿意的，因为金钱是买不来这种传奇人生和地位的，当然等你以这种身份夺冠之后，你的后续收入也是不用愁了。

但是如果你让我做冷板凳，以角色球员身份夺冠？那我不要，我宁可要那1亿美金！让我拿3000万成为夺冠的诺维斯基，我可能愿意！但让我拿3000万成为夺冠的托斯卡诺-安德森，我不要！