[Wojnarowski] Toronto Raptors forward Pascal Siakam has agreed to a four-year, max contract extension, agents @TRamasar and @choufani_lsme tells Zach Lowe and me.
据知名记者Shams报道，消息源透露，多伦多猛龙和西亚卡姆达成了一份4年1.3亿美元的提前续约合同（顶薪），并且此协议中不含任何的球员选项以及球队选项。
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[–]Lakers MMDroxy 1588 指標 8小時前
SPICY EXTENSION
湖人球迷：辣椒酱（西卡自称Spicy P）续约了！！！
[–]Lakers mavropanos27 468 指標 8小時前
hes getting fucking paid
湖人球迷：他尼玛赚大钱咯！
[–]Nets ThatDudeThatWasRude 8 指標 8小時前
Next summer's free agency is going to be boring
篮网球迷：明年夏天的自由市场很无聊啊
[–]West vapianonuts24 356 指標 8小時前*
And I’d say he deserves it. Instrumental in bringing canada it’s first championship and he looks like he’s going to keep improving yearly
我认为西卡这个合同很值啊。加拿大的首个总冠军过程中他的作用很关键，而且他貌似每年都在进步。
[–][BOS] Shaquille O'Neal uncre8ive 23 指標 8小時前
Great for him, totally earned it, played is ass of last 2 years
凯尔特人球迷：这是好事啊，他完全受之无愧，过去两个赛季打得太猛了。
[–]Raptors AnywhereButTheLakers 19 指標 6小時前
He hadn't even picked up a basketball until 8 years ago, there's still a lot of room to improve
猛龙球迷：他8年前甚至都没开始打篮球，提升空间还很大。
[–]peppermintpattymills 66 指標 6小時前
Absolutely deserves it. He's the key to their future. Gotta bet on him
绝对值这个价啊。他是猛龙未来的关键，猛龙必须赌一把。
[–]Lakers Koei7 7 指標 8小時前
At least a post-Kawhi Raptors has Siakam, still a force in the East
湖人球迷：至少后小卡时代的猛龙有了西亚卡姆，他们在东部依然不可小觑。
[–]kawhiOS 109 指標 8小時前
Toronto really had to. guy more than proved his potential.
猛龙还真得续约。这哥们儿的天赋不止于此。
[–]Suns peanutdakidnappa 45 指標 7小時前
I mean 25 is still young, he’ll be like 29 at the end of this deal
太阳球迷：他这才25岁还年轻呢，合同结束时也就29岁。
[–]Celtics BlackSaiyan 2702 指標 7小時前
Caps off what's been a crazy year for Pascal. can't even imagine how he feels rn.
Won a chip
Won MIP
And then he gets the max.
凯尔特人球迷：西亚卡姆这一年实在太疯狂了吧。无法想象他现在是啥感受。
拿了冠军，拿了进步最快球员奖，然后还拿了顶薪。
[–]76ers FoFoAndFo 129 指標 7小時前
A year ago he was coming off a season as a reserve where he put up 7/5/1 on average efficiency
It’s been a good year for Siakam
76人球迷：一年前的他才刚以替补的身份打出了7+5+1的数据，效率平平。
过去这一年西卡的经历太美妙了。
[–]Heat wormhole222 19 指標 4小時前
And yet some people DLo should win MIP over him. DLo was a better player 2 years ago, and a worse player last year.
热火球迷：居然还有人觉得拉塞尔应该拿进步最快球员奖。拉塞尔两年前确实强于西卡，但是上赛季是比不上的。
[–]kingece 1270 指標 7小時前
also started playing basketball when he was 16, its been a crazy 9 years for him
西卡16岁才开始打篮球，这9年的时光对他来说相当疯狂啊。
[–][PDX] Paul Allen DrTom 2642 指標 6小時前
Kinda like me. I didn't start playing hockey until I was 17, and just ten years later I'm unemployed and 30 pounds overweight. It's been a crazy decade for both of us.
有点像我哦。我17岁才开始打曲棍球，这十年功夫我就失业了，还胖了30磅。对我俩来说，这10年都是很疯狂的。
[–]Raptors Raps2k14 76 指標 7小時前
Biased, but how can anyone hate this guy?
猛龙球迷：我是自带粉丝滤镜，可是西卡这种球员怎么会有人讨厌的起来呢？
[–]Warriors CameronPlain 39 指標 6小時前
Does anyone hate him?
勇士球迷：难道有谁讨厌他吗？
[–][TOR] Zan Tabak krizzlybear 18 指標 6小時前
I can't see anyone hate him, but he is just weird enough that there is a subset of folks who wouldn't naturally become fans. They're apathetic or have no opinion whatsoever
猛龙球迷：我是不觉得会有人讨厌他的，不过就是有点奇怪的是，总有那么一群人就是对他没好感。他们很冷漠，也没啥态度。
[–]Supersonics OtherShade 28 指標 6小時前
If you guys are good for a while opposing fans will hate him for talking a lot even if there's nothing wrong with it
超音速球迷：要是你们再这么厉害，那对手的球迷就要开喷了，哪怕他没做错什么，也会挨喷。
[–]Raptors bigDIEter 19 指標 5小時前
Even his trash talk is friendly with a smile on his face
猛龙球迷：哪怕他笑着说友好的垃圾话也会被喷。
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[–]hisBOYelroy420 635 指標 8小時前
Whether or not you believe Siakam is worth a max extension, I honestly don’t think Toronto had much of a choice here. Toronto has some great young talent in the organization but none of them hold a candle to Pascal Siakam, he made that crystal clear when he carried them to a Game 1 win in the Finals while being guarded by one of the greatest defenders of the generation. A good young two-way player, incredible athleticism for his size, high basketball IQ, terrific passing vision and most of all he now has experience with what it takes to win a title. I firmly believe he can reach a ceiling of being a top 15 player and prove himself worthy of the contract and I’m excited to see what he can do with the expanded opportunity this year.
不管你们是否觉得西亚卡姆配得上顶薪，说实话，我真觉得猛龙没得选。猛龙队里有些年轻的天赋，可是他们都和西亚卡姆没得比啊。上赛季总决赛G1那场比赛他已经表现得很清楚了，当时盯防他的可是这代人里最出色的防守人之一。西卡是个年轻的攻防一体球员，他这个体型，能有这种运动天赋算是很了不起了，球商高，传球视野也好，最重要的是，他现在已经拥有了冲冠经验。我觉得他的上限是联盟前15，他能够证明自己这份合同的价值。新赛季他的表现机会更多了，我相当期待他能有怎样的发挥。
[–]Raptors SneakerHyp3 164 指標 7小時前
Siakam was completely worth it, but who else were we going to pay with all the left over cap space we have? The whole point of these early maxes are to try and establish a financial market for the next generation players. So many of the top talents in the league will be declining in 3 years, someone has to fill their gaps
猛龙球迷：西卡的这个合同值得很，可是我们这剩下这么多薪资空间花在谁身上呢？如今这些早早续约的顶薪，其全部意义在于争取为下一代球队腾出经济空间。毕竟如今联盟里很多的顶级天赋在今后三年内就会统治力下滑，总得有人来填补他们的空缺。
[–]Bucks Astaphor 65 指標 6小時前
I see a lot of similarities between the siakam situation with the Middleton situation that we were in. Is it an overpay? Yeah probably but there’s really no other choice and the money isn’t going to be better spent elsewhere
雄鹿球迷：我觉得西卡续约前的状况和米德尔顿很像。合同是溢价的吗？或许是的，可是真的没其他办法了啊，你这笔钱又不能用到其他更好的地方。
[–]Raptors SneakerHyp3 20 指標 6小時前
Exactly. The older players don’t define the market, the younger guys do. You won’t look at guys like KD, Curry, or Lebron and say “oh lets base what to pay the young guys off of them”. I really like that you brought up Middleton though, he is a great example of someone on the upper end of that younger talent setting (26-28 is the cap of the younger range I am talking about) the market early because of his skill level. That’s why guys like Buddy Hield deserve to get paid, he may be close to 27 but he is improving at a consistent rate and over the next 4 years may be that guy any team wants
猛龙球迷：真是这样。市场不是由年纪大的球员决定的，而是相对年轻的球员。你不会盯着阿杜、库里和老詹这些球员，然后说“咱们就以他们为基准去给那些年轻人开工资吧”。不过楼上说起米德尔顿，这点我还挺认同的。年轻球员里年龄最大的一批人（我所说的年轻人年龄上限在26-28之间）因为他们的能力等级而早早决定市场价值，米德尔顿就是个很好的例子。所以希尔德这种球员应该拿大合同，或许他都快27了，但是他能持续进步，再过4年也许是人人争抢了。
[–]Raptors IzzaKnife 5 指標 3小時前
I don't really think it's similar. Siakam is being paid not only for what he's done, but for his potential, just like Jamal Murray. The thing with the Middleton contact is that you know who he is at this point.
猛龙球迷：我真不觉得西卡的状况和米德尔顿相似。西卡拿顶薪不只是因为他的成就，还有他那和贾马尔-穆雷一样的潜力。米德尔顿那个合同的问题是，你这会儿已经知道他是个什么水平了。
[–]zahinlikescats 32 指標 7小時前
Couldn’t they have waited to see how he plays this season before giving him the max? He definitely had a breakout year but I’d be hesitant to offer the max
猛龙咋就不能先看看他新赛季啥表现再给顶薪呢？他上赛季确实是爆发了，但是我觉得给顶薪还得再等等。
[–]Raptors Doc_Choc 57 指標 7小時前
The issue is that unless he regressed severely (like to a point that would be completely unexpected), he'd still get a max deal from some team next summer because of how weak the FA class is. How much would Atlanta love to add Pascal to their young core? Or the Cavs to pair with their guards? It just takes one team and there will definitely be those teams. The Raps would match of course, because even with a down year you'd have to make justifications for him (he has to learn to be a number one option, going from great to elite is the hardest kind of leap, etc etc). It would have been nice to get a few mill hometown discount and I'm sure Masai and Bobby Webster tried but in the end he's earned his money and they love his work ethic and clearly believe he still has room to grow
I think this is going to be a similar issue for Boston with Jaylen Brown, he's going to get a bigger offer than the 4/80M next year and I'd expect them to match.
猛龙球迷：问题是，除非西卡大幅退步（让人大跌眼镜的地步），不然他到了明年夏天还是能从别队拿顶薪，因为明夏的自由市场实在是太惨淡了。你觉得老鹰想不想让西亚卡姆去带带他们的年轻核心团队呢？骑士想不想让他去带带那几个后卫呢？想要西卡的球队肯定是有的。猛龙当然得匹配啊，因为哪怕他新赛季有所下降，你也得替他说话啊（他还得学习如何成为球队老大，从优秀走向顶尖是最难的提升，等等）。要是咱能利用情感牌每年少给几百万那当然高兴，我相信乌杰里和鲍勃-韦伯斯特（总经理）也争取过，可最终西卡还是赢得了那份大合同，管理层欣赏他的工作素养，而且很明显，他们相信他还有成长空间。
我觉得凯尔特人和杰伦-布朗以后的局面也会很相似，布朗明年会拿一份比4年8000万更大的合同，我希望凯尔特人能匹配。
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[–][GSW] JaVale McGee Tenzing_0820 888 指標 8小時前
You get a max ! You get a max ! Everyone gets a max !
勇士球迷：你拿顶薪！他拿顶薪！人人都有顶薪拿！
[–]Wizards makingsomeeggs 780 指標 8小時前
Except Buddy Hield
奇才球迷：除了巴迪-希尔德。
[–][TOR] Kawhi Leonard adomanski 41 指標 8小時前
This is hardly a risky extension.
Siakam is a fucking beast.
猛龙球迷：西卡这个续约不算是冒险。他尼玛就是头野兽。
[–]Kings Bladex20 46 指標 8小時前
IDC what anyone says, Dude is worth it, I'd take his deal over Khris Middleton/Tobias Harris/Murrays any day
国王球迷：随便有些人咋说吧，西卡就该拿这么多。比起米德尔顿、哈里斯和穆雷，我任何时候都更愿意给西卡这么多。
[–]Raptors Ylissian 292 指標 8小時前
Well deserved. I can see why people are questioning this but I'm personally wayyy past doubting Masai
猛龙球迷：他绝对该拿。我能理解大家伙的质疑，但是我个人呢，百分之一千相信乌杰里的判断。
[–]Raptors Yoshiizland 163 指標 8小時前
Raptors fans know to trust in Masai. He's the goat.
猛龙球迷：龙蜜信乌杰里就完事儿了。乌杰里就是史上最强。
[–]Raptors Arthurs_Boi 329 指標 8小時前
Before Masai
Overall record: 581-847, .407 W-L%, best playoff finish was a single 2nd round appearance, highest regular season finish was 3rd in the East, and 5 Playoff Appearances in 18 Seasons
Masai era
Overall record: 321-171, .652 W-L%, 2 ECF appearances, 1 Finals appearance, best regular season finish was 1st in the East, consistently finished in the top 3 in the East, 6 Playoff Appearances in 6 Seasons, and an NBA Championship
He turned a perennial lottery team and one of the worst franchises in the league, into a consistent top 3 seed in the East and a model franchise.
猛龙球迷：乌杰里入职之前：
我们的整体战绩：581胜847负，40.7%的胜率，季后赛最好成绩还是一次二轮游，常规赛最好成绩还是东部第三，18年来就5次进入季后赛。
乌杰里来了后：
整体战绩321胜171负，65.2%的胜率，一次总决赛之旅，常规赛最好成绩是东部第一，长期在东部前三，6个赛季6次进入总决赛，还拿了个总冠军。
他把一支长期的乐透区球队、联盟的顶级鱼腩，打造成了一支稳居东部前三的榜样球队。
[–]Raptors Pixilatedlemon 114 指標 6小時前
This is actually wild to think about.
猛龙球迷：这真是想想就觉得魔幻。
[–]Raptors DavidKirk2000 137 指標 8小時前
A lot of people have been hating on this contract for whatever reason. Did y’all even watch him last season? I swear he added something new to his game every other month, and he’s only gonna improve over the next few years.
We also don’t get big free agents, so we can’t piss him off and let him leave us like every other star we’ve had besides Lowry and DeMar. Masai knows what he’s doing.
猛龙球迷：不管是出于啥原因，很多人一直在喷西卡的合同。你们这些人看了他上赛季的表现吗？我发誓，他每两个月就能增加一种新的技能，而且他接下来这几年只增不减。
而且我们也吸引不了大牌自由球员，所以我们不能怠慢他，然后让他像我们除了洛瑞和德罗赞之外的其他球星一样走人。乌杰里知道该怎么做。
[–]Raptors SolarAs 59 指標 8小時前
ITT: a ton of people underestimating Siakam's worth even after coming off of a terrific season. He carried the team when Kawhi wasn't playing and was the 2nd option throughout the entire playoffs, and even took the load from him at times (see Game 1 of the Finals). With players like Middleton and Porter receiving max contracts, I'd much rather have a player of Siakam's ability, never mind his history of improving every season.
猛龙球迷：即便西卡上赛季表现这么好，很多人还是低估了他的价值。小卡打不了的时是他在凯瑞，而且整个季后赛他都是第二进攻点，甚至有时候还能分担小卡的压力（看看总决赛第一场）。波特和米德尔顿这种球员都拿了顶薪，即便不算每赛季都能进步的历史，我也更愿意有西卡这种能力的球员。
[–]Raptors binzoma 36 指標 8小時前
dude scored 30 points in game 1 of the FINALS.
猛龙球迷：西卡可是在总决赛首场拿了30分的！
[–]Bulls 2PumpChamp 7 指標 6小時前
Against the warriors and Draymond!
公牛球迷：还是打勇士对位追梦！
[–]Yes Reboot 6 指標 8小時前
Think of the worst case scenario if they don't resign him. They lose him to a different team (cuz they let him go) and then no one else wants to come and then for the next 10 years raptors have nothing.
At least now they have something that can attract players, they will know they won't be alone if they come to the raps, and they still can afford to sign someone 2 summers from now.
想想猛龙不续约的最差后果吧，他们让西卡去了其他队（因为他们自己放走的），然后没其他人想来猛龙了，接下来十年他们就一无所获。
至少现在他们还有吸引球员加盟的资本，其他人如果来了猛龙就知道自己不是孤立无援的，而且接下来两个夏天，猛龙还能签来球星。
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[–]Raptors rejus_crust 27 指標 8小時前
Oh my that's a lot of money. This can go one of two ways lol. Overall very happy he's going to be here for a few more years
猛龙球迷：我天呐，这笔钱可不少啊。结局要么好要么坏，哈哈哈。总体来说，还是挺开心的，毕竟西亚卡姆还能留好几年。
[–]Nets YoungJudge 835 指標 8小時前
Maxed after 1 good year
fastest rise ever?
篮网球迷：打了一个赛季好球就顶薪？
这算史上最快涨薪不？
[–]NBA WhoCares 354 指標 8小時前
Didnt Embiid get maxed after 12 games or something?恩比德当初不也就打了12场左右就拿顶薪了吗？
[–]gowthamcity 420 指標 8小時前
Instrumental in our first chip, dude deserves it
我们拿队史首个冠军，西卡功不可没啊，拿这个钱应该的。
[–]Heat qwerty7990 36 指標 8小時前
I mean, he's been improving every year, last year was just a huge jump. But he was the second best player on a championship team. That's worth a max
热火球迷：我是这么觉得的啊，西卡每年都在进步，去年完成了一个飞跃。可是他，他是冠军球队里的二当家，值那个价。
[–]Nets YoungJudge 199 指標 8小時前
absolutely, i’m not hating on him. i love spicy P. just saying it’s crazy how things could change in a year. would you believed me if i told you last year he would be maxed in a year.
篮网球迷：肯定的啊，我说那话也不是反感他，我喜欢辣椒酱。只是想说这才一年时间就变化这么大，太不可思议了。要是我去年告诉你西亚卡姆一年后会拿到顶薪，你信么？
[–]Raptors MasaiGotUsNow 117 指標 8小時前
Raps would agree with you a year ago lol
We didn’t see him becoming this good
We don’t win a ring without him taking a leap last season.
猛龙球迷：哈哈哈，一年前的猛龙应该会同意你说的。
我们还真没想到他会这么厉害。
上赛季要不是他的进步，我们是拿不了冠军的。
[–][TOR] Kawhi Leonard rhyyz 37 指標 8小時前
at the beginning of last season I’d have thought he’d be a sixth man at best in his career
猛龙球迷：上赛季刚开始那会儿，我只是觉得他职业生涯顶多混个第六人。
[–]Raptors rsrsrsrs 79 指標 7小時前
This was one of the major wins that came out of discarding Casey for Nurse.
Casey had him in a bench role while starting JV at the 5 and Ibaka at the 4, and Nurse realized the potential and somehow convinced established vets like JV and Ibaka to split time as starters at the 5 and make Siakam the permanent starting 4.
For a rookie coach to get that type of buy-in from long-time vets on big contracts in favour of a young player making a lot less than them is something you hardly ever see. And a major reason the season ended in a championship.
猛龙球迷：这就是用纳斯取代凯西之后的重要成果之一。以前凯西老让他打替补，瓦兰首发打五号位，伊巴卡打四号位，而纳斯意识到了西卡的潜力，并设法说明瓦兰和伊巴卡这种熟男老将分摊五号位的首发时间，从而将西卡固定在了首发四号位。
这么一个菜鸟教练，居然能让大合同在身的老将做出让步去支持一个年轻球员的成长，这种事可是相当少见的。这也是上赛季我们夺冠的主要原因。
[–]Raptors jhwyung 19 指標 7小時前
Agreed, I honestly couldn't see a jump like this with Casey. He's always preferred to use his vets whenever possible and only wanted to shake shit up when he was backed against a wall.
猛龙球迷：赞同。说真的，要是凯西还在的话，我觉得西卡的进步不会有这么大。不管啥时候，他总是更倾向用老将，只有被逼到墙角了，才会想起年轻人。
[–]Raptors rsrsrsrs 21 指標 7小時前
The best part is it completely revived Ibaka's career and turned JV into a much more valuable trade asset than he was under Casey which allowed us to acquire the perfect fit centre in Gasol for the Championship run.
猛龙球迷：纳斯这种操作最棒的地方在于，完全激活了伊巴卡，而且将瓦兰的交易价值大幅提升，这才使得我们能够得到加索尔这种冲冠的完美中锋。
[–]Thunder moneybooy 37 指標 8小時前
Jamal Murray says Hello
雷霆球迷：说起涨薪之快，贾马尔-穆雷有话说。
[–]Pelicans Good_NewsEveryone 98 指標 8小時前
Murray was the 7th overall pick and improved his ppg by 2 last year. Pascal was the 27th overall pick and improved by nearly 10 ppg.
Think I'll take Spicy P....
鹈鹕球迷：穆雷当初是7号秀，上赛季场均得分提高了2分。西亚卡姆可是27号秀，均分将近提高了10分。
要我我就选西卡……
[–]Hornets YizWasHere 115 指標 8小時前
Because he was already averaging 17 PPG as a 20 year old lol
黄蜂球迷：那是因为穆雷20岁的时候就已经场均17分了啊，呵呵
[–]Az24248 55 指標 8小時前
That's a weird point, Jamal Murray already averaged a decent amount of points, and was a starter, so of course his PPG wasn't going to increase by as much as Pascal's who was a bench player and averaged like 7 PPG before.
那个论点很奇怪，穆雷本来的场均得分就可以，还是个首发，所以他的均分提升幅度肯定没有西卡这种之前打替补、场均7分左右的人大啊。
[–]Raptors PraiseBeToYuvy 357 指標 8小時前
jeez this is in the same league as Jamal Murray's extension in terms of risky contracts that could turn out amazingly well or be a big oof if their growth doesn't continue as much as they'd hope
猛龙球迷：天咯，西卡这合同和穆雷一样都很有风险啊，要么是相当划算，要么就是球员的成长不如球队预期，合同烂在手里。
[–]QUEST50012 14 指標 8小時前
Yeah but this is the risk you gotta take when it's your player with the most star potential, better to overpay than lose him and regress
没错，可是如果那个球员是你队里最具球星潜力的那个，那你就得冒这个险，宁可多给，也好过失去之后球队退步强。
[–]76ers kalin0va 253 指標 8小時前
Siakam is wayyy more proven. Even if he never improves he's a $25m/yr player based on his production last season
76人球迷：西卡可比穆雷要稳得多啊。即便他续约之后停止进步，那按照他上赛季的输出，一年拿个2500万也是合理的吧。
[–]Raptors 3500fp 82 指標 8小時前
Straight up, I’ve heard people say that you can’t really complain about overpaying good players. They’re out there getting you wins even if they aren’t as many as you’d hope. If he stays at 25m/year it’s nbd
猛龙球迷：没毛病。我老听你们说，对那些拿着溢价合同的优秀球员其实不该有意见。他们在场上是可以帮你赢球的，即便他们没你希望的那么能干也是一样。如果西卡只打出了2500万年薪的水准，那也没啥。
[–]Mavericks Android1618033988 49 指標 8小時前
wayyy more proven.
I wouldn't say that, Murray is the starting PG for the 3rd seed in the west, averaging 18/4/4, and 16/3/3 the year before, and 10/2/2 on his rookie year out of the bench, I wouldn't say Pascal is "wayy more proven", sure he had a great year, but the fact that they got the ring probably changes your perspective.
独行侠球迷：“比穆雷要稳得多”
我可不这么觉得，穆雷是西部第三球队的首发控卫，场均18+4+4，前一个赛季是16+3+3，菜鸟赛季打替补是10+2+2，我可不觉得西卡比他“强很多”。是，西卡上赛季打得确实蛮好，可也许是他们夺冠了影响了你的判断。
[–]76ers keyboredcats 23 指標 7小時前
Tons of guys can give you 18/4/4, siakam's two way ability is really special tho
76人球迷：能拿18+4+4的球员海了去了，西卡真正的特殊之处在于他的攻防一体。
[–]Spurs Thehelloman0 42 指標 8小時前
He's a far better defender than Murray and scored more efficiently
马刺球迷：他的防守比穆雷强太多，而且得分效率也更高。
[–]imperial-bedrooms 73 指標 8小時前
Whole lot more shitting on Jamal Murray than I anticipated in this thread lmao
这个帖子里大家喷穆雷比我想象中还要狠，哈哈哈哈哈
[–]Raptors catch22milo 22 指標 7小時前
I know, right? I happen to think Jamal is worth the max as well, especially after how that team performed last year.
猛龙球迷：我也这么觉得。恰巧我也觉得穆雷该拿顶薪，尤其是联想到掘金上赛季的表现。
[–]imperial-bedrooms 6 指標 7小時前
Agreed. He’s was taken 7 overall and was a focal point on offense for the third best team in the west. Get that bag
对的。他当年是7号秀，也是西部第三的进攻轴心，该拿就拿呗。
[–]ThanosIsMyRealFather 34 指標 8小時前
Siakam is also 3 years older than Murray
而且他还比西卡小三岁。
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